tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7463512.post111341208956069516..comments2024-01-01T09:20:22.363-05:00Comments on Brutal Women: What's that I've Been Saying, Again?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7463512.post-1113514771799864482005-04-14T17:39:00.000-04:002005-04-14T17:39:00.000-04:00Bingo Natalie, That's what I was thinking of as fa...Bingo Natalie, That's what I was thinking of as far as the male equivalent behavior is concerned. It's not a small problem either. Most HS wrestling teams would be intimately familiar with it. And I for one fail to see the ultimate public health reason why males were or might have been excluded from the study. While cause of death differs a bit, males die sooner at each and every age cohort than Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7463512.post-1113423532100876632005-04-13T16:18:00.000-04:002005-04-13T16:18:00.000-04:00What I'd like to see is a study of high school wre...What I'd like to see is a study of high school wrestling teams--you know, the boys who are either starving or gorging themselves in order to make weight--sometimes for months at a tome over a period of years. What does that do to their metabolisms? Are they likely to be as fucked up metabolically as women who start on the cycle of dieting when they're teenagers? <BR/><BR/><A></A><A></A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7463512.post-1113419846760251082005-04-13T15:17:00.000-04:002005-04-13T15:17:00.000-04:00Really interesting- that's regression analysis, ye...Really interesting- that's regression analysis, yes? On the face of it it would seem you'd need a very large data pool to do that effectively given the very large set of variables at play, especially if you wanted to account for that attrition factor and expand the study to cover males as well (and a potentially different set of expressions). I may well be misunderstanding, but I imagine it wouldAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7463512.post-1113418521111288482005-04-13T14:55:00.000-04:002005-04-13T14:55:00.000-04:00Hm, should have thought before I posted, because t...Hm, should have thought before I posted, because there's an addendum - this is why so much of the research out there can be problematic, because causation is hard to determine. It's nice to know there's a correlation, and it's better knowing about that correlation than guessing that it may be out there, but when the studies hit the media, it means all kinds of wacky hijinks can ensue - wives moreAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7463512.post-1113418335312838202005-04-13T14:52:00.000-04:002005-04-13T14:52:00.000-04:00Actually, it's a testable proposition... you'd nee...Actually, it's a testable proposition... you'd need to have data collected at at least two different points in time, and there are statistical tests that check to see if a certain variable (say, depression) is mediating another (say, extreme weight control behavior (EWCB)). You can test whether, if one holds depression constant, the other variables continue to affect EWCB, or if it cuts out the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7463512.post-1113413867270123182005-04-13T13:37:00.000-04:002005-04-13T13:37:00.000-04:00You're of course right about the different percept...You're of course right about the different perceptions of overweight girls and boys. I think this is a key quote though:<BR/><BR/>"The correlations between these risk factors suggest that individuals who engage in dieting and weight-control behaviors often experience elevated depression."<BR/><BR/>Or, depression leads to increased weight control behaviors? Hard to tell from correlational data Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com