Monday, August 21, 2006

Review & Interview: "Occupation"

Eric Joel Bresin, Clarion grad and Tangent reviewer has a review up of "The Women of Our Occupation," (I am trying very hard not to argue with my reviewers...) and a short interview with me (my third!).

Have at it.

7 comments so far. What are your thoughts?

David Brennan said...

I guess it's a compliment to the story's quality that the reviews seem to be longer than the story. This would be like of Ebert and Roeper spent three hours on each movie. The tail's kind of wagging the dog there, ya know?


I just wanted to note that I found this story at and found its writing pretty darn good. Regardless of any sociological-type things in the story, it engaged me as a reader, and that's the bottom line.

HAVING SAID THAT.... If it's allegorical, maybe it's just an extrapolation of modern America? What with 3 out of every 5 college degrees going to women and 3 out of every 5 votes being cast by women, can't we all agree that our laws and culture are dictated by women a lot more than men? (Didn't think so.)

Like I said, it was well written, so good job!

Kameron Hurley said...

What with 3 out of every 5 college degrees going to women and 3 out of every 5 votes being cast by women, can't we all agree that our laws and culture are dictated by women a lot more than men? (Didn't think so.)

When women own 51% of the country's property, make up 51% of our government, make 1% more money than men working the same positions, write and produce 51% of the country's media, and commit 51% of the country's crimes, I might start to get concerned :)

Until then, no. As I well know, having an advanced degree does not automatically mean advancing to a high level of wealth and power.

In any case, glad you liked the story!

Eric Joel Bresin said...

The problem is that most advanced degrees pretty much restrict you to teaching academia, and ironically bestowing other people with advanced degrees in a kind of cylical spiral (thus glutting the academic job market). Exceptions to that rule being law, business, engineering, and a few other subjects.

Nobody appreciates the liberal arts. :(

David Brennan said...

So then if college degrees don't lead to success....why don't we do away with affirmative action?

I mean, based on my personal experience, we ARE living in the "occupied" world of the story, it's just that the government's enforcers happen to be male. I could tell you numerous anecodtes which, to me, unquestioningly and irreversibly prove that our society systematically favors females over males. More to the point, empirical data proves the idea:

Suicides: 81% Male
Prison Population: 94% Male
College Degrees: 60% Female
Voters: 60% Female

I mean, isn't THAT the world in the story?

Kameron Hurley said...

Oh, God, here we go again....

Eric Joel Bresin said...

I hope Kameron doesn't mind me replying on her boards.

Well, one problem I see here is that you're equating "success" with wealth and power. Can't one appreciate getting an education just because? Can't we be "successful" by attaining a fulfilling job, making a decent salary, and having a happy life? Why must success be equated with wealth and power?

As for degrees, college graduates usually make more money than people who only have high School degrees (except for those rare exceptions of entrapaneural genius). However, just because you get an advanced degree doesn't mean you're going to be a millionare or be a top candidate for the Presidency. I think that's the only point that was being made.

A college degree opens up doors at other jobs not necessarily related to your major. Looking at my own comments above, if you get a Ph. D. or Masters in English, that really only qualifies to teach Academia English in regards to the training of that degree, but having that degree also opens oppurtunities in non-English related jobs. Such as working in some sort of business or office. Those oppurtunities might not be there if you only had a high school degree.

Eric Joel Bresin said...

Spelling fixes:
Post 1: cyclical
Post 2: "entrepreneurial"